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I find LPC policies and rhetoric assume that shareholder, manager, and worker interests are aligned or gloss over those distinctions altogether. Assumes the audience sees themselves entirely as "middle class or eager to join it." There's no data there

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Oh, hundred percent agreed on that piece. I know literal millionaires who think of themselves as "middle class" because, hey, *they* know people who are even *richer than that*, and let's be honest - these are the kinds of people the LPC in its current incarnation panders to. Rich people who want to be reassured that they're not the *bad* rich people.

I think you make a good point about glossing over the distinctions, too. Liberals tend to accept the premise that Paul Martin's kid and Frank Morneau's kid were economic geniuses---hey, who knows more about money than a rich guy?

On the other hand, I've found the Ontario NDP under Andrea Horwath and Marit Stiles...not quite as annoying in *how* they pander, but also kind of centrist and pandering. So I agree with you that I'd love for the Liberals to have *more* class consciousness, but I don't know if the NDP has that much either.

I guess you'd call me one of those "working to join it" types---I came from a middle-class family growing up, am middle-class now, but was poor in my twenties and thirties. Not "very little left over after paying the mortgage and maxing out the RRSP" poor - *poor* poor. I've never felt like the NDP gave much of a damn about me (or the Liberals, or the Conservatives). Honestly, I think the closest thing we've had to a politician with any kind of sympathy for actual poor people has been Jean Chretien - and even he was more of a "would give somebody a dollar while walking past them on the way to an event at the Empire Club" guy, right?

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