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Jim Woodgett's avatar

Lots to agree with in this piece but also some problems. The knee jerk reaction that caused the shut down of training visas was because, at least in Ontario, the provincial government both froze domestic tuition and turned a blind eye to colleges recruiting unprecedented numbers of international students to make up the difference. In towns like Kitchener, home to Conestoga, you bet the impact on housing was not spurious. Moreover the numbers of temporary foreign permits fed into the xenophobic attitude of too many immigrants, regardless of the cause. The answer is tighten the visa process, rethink the automatic landed immigrant status and reduce the caps on graduate and postdoctoral trainees.

My other disagreement is in the need to limit the topics of recruitment classes. Sure, AI, etc. are hot topics but by predefining future strengths we deny the fundamental promise of science, which is to prepare minds to tackle big questions that we don’t yet appreciate the importance of.

The US academic sector is undergoing massive disruption and we are fooling ourselves if we think we can attract a few names to make a difference. Rather, we should do better in making our system more attractive for researchers from anywhere, including Canadians - that way we still win even if “they” don’t come.

Canada has worked for over 50 years in the shadow of the US. To succeed in this new reality we need to define ourselves in new ways including how we are different from, and therefore might take advantage of the changes in, the US.

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Geoff Olynyk's avatar

Can we please separate international students in serious programmes at esteemed universities like McGill or U of T or UBC (which is what we’re talking about when we think about poaching talent from US universities) from the discussion of the semi-shady international-student diploma mills (________ Community College, Brampton Campus)

They are NOT the same. Recruiting the world’s talent to come here for science or serious humanities education is not the same as funnelling 10,000 students through a “business administration” degree or whatever.

We should shut down the latter but keep the ability to attract the world’s talent to the top universities.

The massive numbers of “students” who work 40 hours a week off campus absolutely did impact housing prices. Call me old-fashioned but if you are working 40 hours a week off-campus, you’re not actually a student, that’s just a giveaway to Timmies and DoorDash with another TFW channel.

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