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Encore: How great art gets made
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Encore: How great art gets made

I'm flying home from vacation, so here's one of my favourite podcast episodes
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I took a week off to visit London. I should be back in Canada by the end of Wednesday, and there’s a lot to write about. But meanwhile, here’s another encore episode of the podcast. From 13 months ago, this is one of my favourite episodes. It’s about a book called The Work of Art, and its author is one of my career role models, the magazine editor Adam Moss.

Here’s some of what I wrote when we first posted this episode

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The Americans have an actual Magazine Editors’ Hall of Fame. In a genius move, they don’t add to it every year — because realistically, how often does a hall-of-fame magazine editor come along? But Adam Moss is in it. That’s because from 2004 to 2019 he edited New York magazine. And even though city magazines are a tightly constrained form — it’s mostly service journalism; you need to tell residents where to shop and visitors what to see, and only after you’ve nailed that stuff down do you get to tell a few honest-to-God stories about the place — Adam Moss reinvented New York, made it relevant and appealing, guided it gently into its digital future. His trademark was the back-page Approval Matrix, which maps the week’s cultural events across four quadrants: Highbrow, Lowbrow, Brilliant, Despicable. But his contribution goes way beyond a funky page. New York won six National Magazine Awards for General Excellence and four for Design while he was its editor

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He retired not long before COVID broke out all over, and now he’s come out the other side with a book. It’s called The Work of Art. It’s concerned with that irreducibly mysterious question: Where does art come from? Moss interviews 43 creators — from legends like Stephen Sondheim and the playwright Tony Kushner to architects, poets, painters, composers, sand-castle sculptors and the showrunner for Veep — about how they made specific works.

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But he didn’t just interview them. He asked each one to show their work: early sketches, rough drafts, rejected efforts, diaries, text-message logs, the “creative entrails” of the process. So you find yourself going through each artist’s work week, while the artist discusses the stress, epiphanies and trade-offs of creation, and Moss stands at their elbow, refusing to let them off the hook. Here are spreads from the book’s chapters on a poem by Louise Glück, Kushner’s epic two-play cycle Angels in America, and Sheila Heti’s novel How Should a Person Be?

Here’s the rest of that original post. I’m working on a fourth season of The Paul Wells Show, but in the meantime I’m comfortable sharing these evergreen episodes. The podcast’s audience is way larger now than even a year ago, so Adam Moss will be new to most of you. This is a great episode for anyone who faces creativity challenges, which is probably anyone.

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